Is forgiveness possible for AI-using bloggers?

I can’t really claim that I haven’t embraced LLM and AI. I use an AI-powered program to generate a Daily Blogroll, every day. I often generate images with AI. I use AI assistance for coding at work — where it is required. But I also use it at home, where it is not

So when my blog was rejected for a new blogging web ring because of AI use, I couldn’t really say, “no, what, me? No!”. While I don’t use AI in my writing, I definitely use it in a lot of other ways. And to be absolutely honest, I’d probably use it for writing if it were any good. But it’s not. It’s terrible. So I don’t use it.

I’ve stopped correcting and proofreading what I write, because I feel the imperfections feel human. So, yeah, this crappy writing is all mine, and not AI.

I imagine artists feel AI-generated imagery taints everything near it by association. And so if I have an AI generated image on my blog (and my logo was initially created by a logo generator, before being touched up in GIMP by me), my whole blog is tainted. Everything I might write is, “well, this cannot be worth reading, because there is an AI-generated image.”

But the question I have to ask at this point, is, how does one pay penance for this sin? How does one become born again into the new world of no AI use?

So, let’s decide what is an AI sin. There are levels.

Using an AI chatbot and keeping the conversation to yourself and not using anything resulting from that conversation in your life. This might be something like doing a search for something in Chrome and perhaps following up in the AI prompt they add onto everything now.

AI purists will claim that any AI interaction is draining a reservoir somewhere, but that clearly is overreacting. Certainly searching for something and then interacting with the chatbot afterward has to count as the most minor of sins.

Sharing that chat result with someone else would be a level beyond that. You have now come out as an AI user, and people can say of you, “well, you used AI for that.” From now on, other people will all have the doubt — was that your own thought, or AI?

So this is where I am at, at the moment. I use AI to generate images and to assist in writing code. I also use a chatbot for spit-balling ideas — it’s always available, and even if the reactions aren’t helpful, just chatting about it helps me focus my thoughts.

Following the penitent’s path to absolution seems a little much. I don’t make any money doing this (and in fact it costs me money), I am not a celebrity or an influencer, and mostly, I doubt many people honestly care what I do or do not do with AI.

Except when it’s blogger groups. I’ve been blocked — instantly blocked — on social media sites, presumably because of AI use. I wanted to be part of a blogger web ring; this isn’t going to happen because of AI use. There’s an even chance I won’t be allowed to participate in Blaugust this year because of the taint of AI.

Or rather, for the taint of admitting to using AI.

Look, I’m a gamer, I like playing games, I like writing about games. I also like making weird pictures with AI. If my writing (and by association, myself) is not acceptable in web rings, then I feel really bad about that. I think and believe that my writing on this blog over 21 years has proven my bone fides. I even think that my writing is enjoyable and informative (but I admit that I am biased). I am proud to be a game blogger. If the reaction is, “but you have used AI, so you cannot be counted as one of us,” then I really have no control over that. I’m not going to delete the blog and my social media and wear a hair shirt.

If any admitted AI use in a blog is enough to damn the entire thing, then what those groups are doing are making their blogging pool smaller and smaller and ever smaller.

Purity tests are bad, mmmkay? Reject my blog because you don’t like how I write, sure. Rejecting it because I had ChatGPT make a cartoon of my Malifaux minis? Well, you know, I really enjoyed making that picture, and the others like them, and I felt that they help explain the game to people who aren’t very familiar with tabletop skirmish gaming.

So it is what it is.

I still want to be on that web ring. I feel I would contribute and fit in well. But I understand the objection.

I just don’t agree with it.

15 responses to “Is forgiveness possible for AI-using bloggers?”

  1. Nimgimli Avatar
    Nimgimli

    Screw that web ring. I was interested in it until I heard what bigots they are.

    When people block me because I use AI I consider it a win. Fewer close-mined people in my circles feels like a good thing.

    And it’s SO dumb. Like if you spent more time making your AI images so they couldn’t be identified as AI (which is absolutely possible, if you’re patient and disciplined) , you’d be OK (unless you used one of the modern services that tag stuff as AI generated in the meta data).

    I don’t use AI to write my posts for the same reason as you. Everything that AI writes sounds like AI. There are bloggers I know that I’d be folding money are using AI but they don’t say they are. But there stuff just has that AI cadence and uses a lot of phrasing and structure that AI loves. Doesn’t make their blogs less interesting because the experiences they’re talking about are THEIR experiences, not the AI’s.

    Back to me. I don’t use AI to write posts but I do use it to generate SEO friendly excerpts, and sometime after I write a first draft I’ll let an AI scan it and if it makes any good points (usually something like ‘the story about the seal and the ice cream vendor is interesting but really detracts from the focus of the post) I’ll even take the advice, but only once I’ve thought about it and decide I agree.

    So I guess my blog should be blocked, too. Also I have used AI images in the past on DC but stopped due to the bigoted views of some people. So I’m sure they’d reject me anyway.

    Also screw Blaugust. Do Naagust with me. Which is to say post every day but don’t “join the inner sanctum of AI free blaugust bloggers”!

    1. Tipa Avatar

      Well, I’d say first, I’m all in favor of events that bring more bloggers into the fold. Blaugust can be a lot of fun. And second, yeah, I know bloggers who use AI but don’t disclose it. And I agree that they nonetheless added value because it was based on their experience and insights.

      I’d be some sort of hypocrite if I said *MY* use of AI was okay, but that person there, their use CROSSES THE LINE. So if the content is useful and fun, I’ll read it without asking too many questions. If it is cheap and exploitive, well, plenty of other blogs.

      There was an artist on Mastodon who produced finished art every day. I was certain he was using AI, but figured he wasn’t trying to hide it. Then he started posting fake speedpainting replays from the painting software. You can always tell — no mistakes, no redraws, just perfect lines in the right place. And so I blocked him. Because he was pretending he was the creator.

      I’ll participate in Blaugust if it happens (Belghast’s life hasn’t gotten any easier since last year) and if I’m allowed. If I am not allowed, my life will continue and I’ll keep doing what I do.

      Purity tests always run the risk of excluding people who should be included, and we see this EVERYWHERE, not just in game blogging. I need to point out that Substack bloggers are also excluded by virtue of being on Substack, which immediately blocks a mess of really great bloggers, just cuts them out because they failed another purity test.

      Maybe I will start an AI-inclusive web ring. AI okay as long as it is disclosed. Think that could work?

      1. Nimgimli Avatar
        Nimgimli

        I’d join it, if you’d accept me!!

  2. Bhagpuss Avatar

    Heh. I’m sure you know exactly who’s likely to come into the comments and make their feelings known about this. It’s going to be the handful of bloggers who also quite like messing around with AI for the fun of it. The zealots, who care about the taint, are never even going to read this post. They’re already long gone from blogs like yours or mine always assuming any of them even knew they existed in the first place, which in my case at least, I very much doubt.

    Honestly, though, it’s made precious little difference to my readership. I lost two or three regular readers early on – they made it clear why they were going and they haven’t been heard from since – and a couple of people made comments but my numbers never changed and no-one’s really mentioned it for a long time. I get a few comments from the people who find AI interesting and everyone else ignores anything I say or do about it, which makes AI the same as just about everything I ever write about.

    Blaugust is an interesting problem. I still enjoy participating but it’s been quite a few years since I really enjoyed reading most of the new blogs it introduces me to. Most are of little interest to me thematically and an ever-increasing number aren’t even blogs by any definition I’d use. I found the last two years to be quite a trial at times and I’m in two minds whether to participate at all this year, assuming there is a Blaugust 2026. If there is and I do sign up I will definitely not be doing any of the things I’ve done in the past, like adding all the new blogs to my blog roll or posting lists of them with links. I’ll probably ask to be removed from the Mentor list, too. It’s impossible to imagine any of the newer bloggers having the slightest interest in any advice I might have.

    If the new rules specifically bar all AI content then that’ll be a red line for me. I’m not going to be told what I can and can’t do on my own blog. I’d grudgingly accept a requirement to annotate posts to say if AI was used but that’s it. AI is just another software tool as far as I’m concerned. It’s like spellcheck or paint.net. The main reason I don’t use AI as much as I use those is that it isn’t as reliable or as useful. If it was, I might.

    As for the environmental issues and the theft, I’m looking into how to run my own AI locally. It seems it’s not that hard and doesn’t require a particularly hefty PC to do it. If we get to the point where the AI is on our own machines, I can’t see where the issue is. And as for the training on other people’s stuff without their permission, I’d only use it for writing if I could train it 100% on my own output, something I’ve wanted to do for a long time now. I’ve said multiple times that if I could get an LLM to reproduce my style accurately, I’d try slipping in a post or two written by it just for fun, to see if anyone could tell the difference but we’re nowhere remotely close to that being a possibility as far as I can tell.

    The next couple of years will see all this shake itself out, one way or the other. It’s already extremely interesting to watch and it’s going to get even more so. I don’t particularly feel anyone needs to take sides but if it has to happen then I’m going to feel a lot more favorably towards people who don’t try to tell me what I can and can’t do on my blog than the other way around.

    1. Tipa Avatar

      Most random people in the real world just see AI as a fun tool. They don’t see it as a moral failure. And if they did, they’d focus their slings and arrows on the billionaires and not the users. We’re encouraged at work to use AI for documentation, emails, spreadsheets, everything. I feel we’re just making pointless junk that nobody will ever use, but I point out again and again that usage is required because we are paying for it and we’d better be using it.

      You can train the AI on your own stuff. There’s a whole subculture out there that did that with RNN/LSTM neural nets; I imagine they have all moved to training GPT datasets. Whether what came out would be worth reading, well, I dunno. But they have come close at times to resurrecting dead authors.

      1. Victor Barreiro Jr. Avatar
        Victor Barreiro Jr.

        Our newsroom has an at-a-glance summarization feature for all our written content based off the story page you visit.

        It works, but needs to be curated and checked against the original, as AI should be, generally speaking, when it comes to regurgitating and summarizing stuff online.

      2. Tipa Avatar

        That is the problem with AI-generated stuff, and it’s the real issue for code generators in particular. At work, we’re told that we should strive for writing 0% of our code by hand. BUT… that we are nonetheless responsible for 100% of it.

        That’s unrealistic. And so we have code — and by we I mean all the companies that are pushing AI — and so we all have code going out that nobody truly understands, but it was done fast.

        Then you have lawyers using AI to generate fake citations which look so real that they don’t bother checking them manually. Leading to ruined careers.

        AI is not, despite what the billionaires want you to think, a force for good. Like any tool, it’s how it is used, and isn’t inherently good or bad.

    2. Nimgimli Avatar
      Nimgimli

      For local LLM/chatbot stuff, download LM Studio. Super simple to use.

      For generative art things get more complicated and VRAM requirements go up, but Comfy UI seems like the most popular tool (or maybe that’s observational bias since it is what I use).

      Always happy to answer questions about running local if you have them!

  3. Wilhelm Arcturus Avatar

    They dinged you on AI when the real crime here is that you only have sharing buttons for X and Facebook?

    I applied too. We’ll see how I fare as I am not 100% pure on the AI front. I tend to use it to mock AI or the companies that push it… most recently Microsoft and the coming XBox apocalypse when they are setting money on fire with AI… but I suspect that won’t be much of an excuse.

    1. Tipa Avatar

      Nah, they’d be crazy to turn you down. I definitely don’t think of your blog as a place I’d expect to see AI. And I hope you do get in.

      I am also unhappy they cut out the thriving cozy game blogger community by blacklisting Substack blogs.

      I was considering making a feed for guaranteed non-AI posts, but then, my logo is AI generated and is kind of a scarlet letter, even setting aside the entirely AI generated nature of the Daily Blogroll. My pre-AI strat was just to take screenshots and have the characters in it say stupid things and I should probably go back to that.

      Except that at this point I doubt there is anything I would be likely to do that would make me acceptable in some people’s eyes. I should probably register with the local authorities.

      1. Tipa Avatar

        As for the sharing icons, not really sure what to do about those. I guess I should figure it out. But since I already publicize posts to my social networks, maybe it’s a good idea to have buttons for people who want to put it in places I’m not 🙂

      2. bhagpuss Avatar

        What actually is this “web ring” anyway? I never get invites to these things. Plus I thought Web Rings went out with GeoCities. I thought the whole point of putting things on the web was that everyone in the world could find them just by looking. Why do we need to separate them off into fenced-in “rings”? Seems like a bad idea in principle. Your Daily Blogroll is the antithesis of that.

      3. Tipa Avatar

        The idea is that searching for information online is now smooshed into uselessness by AI, so this is curation of a sort. In fact it’s a lot like my Daily Blogroll. The only real difference is that you are presented with a bunch of small image tags and you still don’t know if there is any new content or anything. I do feel my variant is more useful, but I can definitely see the attraction of a web ring. Having a blog in the same pool of blogs that contain’s Wes Fenlon’s Read Only Memo would be an honor, if nothing else.

  4. ScopiqueScopique Avatar

    “Yeah, well, we’re gonna go build our own web ring. With blackjack and hookers! In fact forget the park.”

    1. Tipa Avatar

      🙂

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